1 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:04,730 I just wondered uh what is the latest 2 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:13,030 [Music] 3 00:00:22,849 --> 00:00:17,090 you mean Dr o Adams 4 00:00:24,109 --> 00:00:22,859 [Music] 5 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:24,119 there was 6 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:24,960 a 7 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:48,239 is the horse still on the ground 8 00:00:55,549 --> 00:00:52,020 isn't it uh petrified well it never did 9 00:00:59,930 --> 00:00:55,559 smell this is another odd thing about it 10 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:00,490 s 11 00:01:52,249 --> 00:01:50,939 know the uh the abdomen part do you did 12 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:52,259 anybody tell you that there should have 13 00:01:55,290 --> 00:01:53,100 been 14 00:02:08,629 --> 00:01:55,300 you know intestines and things of nature 15 00:02:12,729 --> 00:02:10,550 [Music] 16 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:12,739 the origins are still 17 00:02:18,650 --> 00:02:16,020 recognizable however they're dried up to 18 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:18,660 nothing but they are recognize 19 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:29,210 [Music] 20 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:31,800 well this is really something yeah I 21 00:02:34,340 --> 00:02:33,360 thought it was very interesting and they 22 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:34,350 were enabled 23 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:41,580 [Music] 24 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:44,040 they were going to Mr Roof Mrs Lewis I 25 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:45,360 found a picture of you in the Sunny 26 00:02:50,449 --> 00:02:48,420 Times of New York City oh really yes and 27 00:02:52,729 --> 00:02:50,459 uh you were right next to the horn 28 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:52,739 and uh just wondering if there's a 29 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,860 possibility of getting uh any pictures 30 00:02:59,270 --> 00:02:57,480 that you that you might have in your 31 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,280 possession any even a prince who will 32 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:01,680 make the negatives out of it of the 33 00:03:05,930 --> 00:03:04,260 horse uh or of you around it you know 34 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:05,940 things that like that 35 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:08,340 we were very foolish we didn't take any 36 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:10,800 pictures of us 37 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:18,410 what about the horse itself 38 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:23,520 [Music] 39 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:27,120 if you if you get any kind of 40 00:03:31,070 --> 00:03:29,459 photographs or things that make us would 41 00:03:32,990 --> 00:03:31,080 you send them along to us we've also 42 00:03:35,690 --> 00:03:33,000 written a letter to The Pueblo Chieftain 43 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:35,700 for any photographs or any articles that 44 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:37,440 they've written you know knowing that 45 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:39,300 you do some writing to yourself 46 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:41,000 hmm 47 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:48,890 have you had any other uh strange 48 00:04:05,690 --> 00:03:54,350 the last three weeks people been calling 49 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:07,700 object on the ground 50 00:04:14,310 --> 00:04:19,150 [Music] 51 00:04:23,950 --> 00:04:21,890 exciting you saw something you yourself 52 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:23,960 saw something on the ground 53 00:04:42,290 --> 00:04:40,390 [Music] 54 00:04:45,129 --> 00:04:42,300 and 55 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:45,139 it passed 56 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:48,240 it was natural phenomena what about when 57 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:49,440 I was on the ground what does it look 58 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:56,629 well it was 59 00:05:06,160 --> 00:04:59,520 bright light Ed real big 60 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:11,409 [Music] 61 00:05:11,419 --> 00:05:16,850 rapidly sorry 62 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:18,469 I don't know are there any roads out 63 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:19,890 there in that area 64 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:28,670 let me ask another question what about 65 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:30,600 the maggots that were supposedly present 66 00:05:33,890 --> 00:05:32,460 in the other horse didn't you say 67 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:33,900 something on the order that the maggots 68 00:05:39,230 --> 00:05:35,880 on the on 69 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:39,240 oh what's his name uh the voice is the 70 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:41,759 slippies where dead and the maggots on 71 00:06:00,409 --> 00:05:55,330 [Music] 72 00:06:02,590 --> 00:06:00,419 and working very strong how far away 73 00:06:04,689 --> 00:06:02,600 how far away was that uh 74 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:04,699 [Music] 75 00:06:10,249 --> 00:06:07,560 how about the other dude about the same 76 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:10,259 altitude 77 00:06:23,870 --> 00:06:12,240 is there anything else that uh you might 78 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,990 [Music] 79 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:33,950 the pictures and the results 80 00:06:37,969 --> 00:06:36,590 marks that were 81 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:37,979 a different effects 82 00:06:48,890 --> 00:06:41,430 which ones would you say those were 83 00:06:58,909 --> 00:06:50,300 the states 84 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:01,430 smaller spots around the big spot again 85 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:06,170 now 86 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:08,460 the government only 87 00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:13,670 but they're doing it now wait a minute 88 00:07:17,450 --> 00:07:15,240 are you talking about black spots I 89 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:17,460 understood that the blank spots you mean 90 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:19,440 there you mean the whole circle of 75 91 00:07:26,930 --> 00:07:21,060 feet was black 92 00:07:35,170 --> 00:07:28,969 no 93 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:41,390 all around 94 00:07:46,050 --> 00:07:43,850 did they make a circular Mark did they 95 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:46,060 go around the circle oh 96 00:07:50,940 --> 00:08:01,029 um 97 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,830 right 75 feet across 98 00:08:08,809 --> 00:08:05,520 now why didn't you pick up some of that 99 00:08:10,930 --> 00:08:08,819 black material yourself and save it 100 00:08:13,790 --> 00:08:10,940 because of my car right 101 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:13,800 let me ask you a question if you went 102 00:08:18,170 --> 00:08:15,360 down to the drugstore and got yourself a 103 00:08:20,809 --> 00:08:18,180 little while or if you had one at home 104 00:08:32,209 --> 00:08:20,819 would you mind sending us some 105 00:08:34,969 --> 00:08:33,649 if you'll send up some of it you don't 106 00:08:37,130 --> 00:08:34,979 have to send a call I want you to keep 107 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:37,140 some of it because uh I think you should 108 00:08:41,449 --> 00:08:38,880 have kept some of that for your own you 109 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,459 know for your own self but we'd like to 110 00:08:45,889 --> 00:08:42,959 have any portion of it that you'll send 111 00:08:48,050 --> 00:08:45,899 us all right anything that you have that 112 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:48,060 you would like you wouldn't mind sharing 113 00:09:02,050 --> 00:08:49,990 with us we'll pay for anything 114 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,509 paper that uh you found a piece of 115 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:07,200 material about the sides of a chicken 116 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:09,660 liver and about the same shape 117 00:09:14,210 --> 00:09:12,480 and when you broke it open uh some 118 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:14,220 greenish I like green material came out 119 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:16,260 of is that right that is correct 120 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:22,389 how much of it 121 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:24,180 that is 122 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,620 right apple green a beautiful green 123 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:30,480 right and it is 124 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:35,389 because they're still around the horse 125 00:09:38,930 --> 00:09:37,680 why would we would uh appreciate 126 00:09:40,250 --> 00:09:38,940 anything you can do for us in that 127 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:40,260 respect 128 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:42,180 and we're doing everything we can to 129 00:09:46,370 --> 00:09:44,220 break this mystery as much as we can 130 00:09:48,350 --> 00:09:46,380 anyway and we're willing to help you if 131 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:48,360 you're willing to help us a little bit I 132 00:09:52,190 --> 00:09:49,920 would like to get some of this to 133 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:52,200 someone who would truthfully give me a 134 00:09:56,690 --> 00:09:54,480 report on it whether the government has 135 00:09:59,389 --> 00:09:56,700 no intentions of giving out any reports 136 00:10:01,070 --> 00:09:59,399 all right I'll tell you what we do we uh 137 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:01,080 we intend to do something with it we'll 138 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:02,220 see what we can do about a chemical 139 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:03,880 analysis 140 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:14,509 okay 141 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:16,620 I'm just wondering though if um the 142 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:19,260 chemical processes of of keeping that 143 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:21,360 animal out there for such a long time in 144 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:22,740 a dead State wouldn't change the height 145 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:28,810 [Music] 146 00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:31,680 in other words 147 00:10:42,590 --> 00:10:40,790 [Music] 148 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:42,600 I don't either but we can find out 149 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:51,650 [Music] 150 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:53,509 so I don't know but there have been 151 00:11:00,250 --> 00:10:55,260 several that say well this is just like 152 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:05,090 over there 153 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:07,550 is that right 154 00:11:14,030 --> 00:11:10,680 and no tanning on it no I didn't touch 155 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:15,889 but who were the labs that were doing 156 00:11:18,850 --> 00:11:33,350 [Music] 157 00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:35,569 turn everything over 158 00:11:40,190 --> 00:11:48,910 [Music] 159 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:52,190 's office and I definitely sure that 160 00:11:58,910 --> 00:11:53,760 would have an answer because there was 161 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:00,110 that there was enough that Christian 162 00:12:04,009 --> 00:12:02,160 Life I'm sure 163 00:12:06,410 --> 00:12:04,019 it would give an answer 164 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:06,420 oh my God 165 00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:09,660 they have come out with 166 00:12:13,130 --> 00:12:11,640 the sticks it sounds like yeah your 167 00:12:15,650 --> 00:12:13,140 sounds like you're about right because 168 00:12:17,329 --> 00:12:15,660 if they've already made remarks of the 169 00:12:19,449 --> 00:12:17,339 effect that there was no black marker on 170 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,459 it and you know that there was 171 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:21,839 I know but as what I'm saying it's 172 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:24,000 consistent with your ideas how are you 173 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:25,200 going to believe whatever they say later 174 00:12:33,370 --> 00:12:25,920 on 175 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:35,329 medicine 176 00:12:37,810 --> 00:12:36,660 yeah 177 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:37,820 and 178 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:41,279 I heard the government man on broadcast 179 00:12:48,390 --> 00:12:44,160 and he was saying they asked him what 180 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,710 [Music] 181 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:53,629 now 182 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:03,330 [Applause] 183 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:10,850 deteriorating they have given out these 184 00:13:14,509 --> 00:13:12,300 glories 185 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:14,519 and I mean it just makes me 186 00:13:17,949 --> 00:13:16,200 stand that they didn't come in to 187 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:17,959 investigate 188 00:13:25,069 --> 00:13:22,380 no David would you say they came in here 189 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:25,079 to intimidate they call people Liars 190 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,370 true of the Condon group also 191 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:35,480 all right 192 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:48,850 foreign 193 00:13:54,370 --> 00:13:51,710 group has uh surrendered the materials 194 00:13:55,580 --> 00:13:54,380 to a Westinghouse Laboratory 195 00:13:57,610 --> 00:13:55,590 groups 196 00:14:02,810 --> 00:13:57,620 [Music] 197 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:07,550 all the way to time 198 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:10,190 that's where they made their mistake 199 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:11,820 foreign 200 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:13,500 well the thing about it is that The 201 00:14:16,910 --> 00:14:15,180 nightcap group should have never 202 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:16,920 surrendered their whole the the the 203 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:19,860 complete uh propriety to anything that 204 00:14:40,490 --> 00:14:38,090 [Music] 205 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:40,500 oh boy I'm sure glad that Apple got 206 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:44,509 foreign 207 00:14:48,530 --> 00:14:46,380 well it takes time 208 00:14:50,329 --> 00:14:48,540 it takes time to run these tests then 209 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:50,339 you have to evaluate them besides you 210 00:14:56,990 --> 00:14:55,009 [Music] 211 00:15:02,990 --> 00:14:57,000 that but they've never let me know 212 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:12,650 [Music] 213 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:14,870 at what point did they suggest you were 214 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:30,350 [Music] 215 00:15:34,910 --> 00:15:33,230 but definitely is these kind of things I 216 00:15:37,790 --> 00:15:34,920 don't understand 217 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:37,800 and you did the volunteer a lie detector 218 00:15:41,329 --> 00:15:39,839 test 219 00:15:45,780 --> 00:15:41,339 you've got nerves 220 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:47,930 [Music] 221 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:50,760 eyes that my husband and my older 222 00:15:54,769 --> 00:15:52,079 brother 223 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:54,779 the people who go around learning and 224 00:15:59,870 --> 00:15:57,480 you all volunteered again 225 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:59,880 very good 226 00:16:04,210 --> 00:16:01,680 still doing the right magazine 227 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:04,220 representative was here today 228 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:10,670 and not have a government 229 00:16:18,290 --> 00:16:16,550 to read it 230 00:16:19,970 --> 00:16:18,300 I'm not connected with the government 231 00:16:22,610 --> 00:16:19,980 some neutral person 232 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,620 correct 233 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:24,240 well you've given us quite a bit to 234 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:32,030 no you would 235 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:35,390 better not that's right 236 00:16:48,250 --> 00:16:51,730 [Applause] 237 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:54,829 well it seems that way anyway maybe 238 00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:57,060 there's a reason but uh I I don't quite 239 00:17:04,569 --> 00:16:59,040 fathom it I wouldn't have believed it 240 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,069 all right another words now from uh 241 00:17:10,909 --> 00:17:09,360 there has been no further development 242 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,919 before the horse is concerned nobody 243 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:13,439 else has taken another pathological test 244 00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:15,240 of it 245 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:18,839 uh what about this Anonymous pathologist 246 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:31,130 I know you do know him though 247 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:32,460 I 248 00:17:41,289 --> 00:17:37,500 and someone mailed me a picture of some 249 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:41,299 scientists I think it's his picture 250 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:44,160 is that right so there you are I guess 251 00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:45,480 you didn't give me his name in the first 252 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:47,820 place are you afraid of giving us the 253 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,350 sign his name 254 00:17:53,050 --> 00:17:51,360 [Applause] 255 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:53,060 oh that's right 256 00:18:05,090 --> 00:17:54,960 [Music] 257 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:15,040 foreign 258 00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:48,230 [Music] 259 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:50,310 don't receive amount of 260 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:50,340 [Music] 261 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:59,049 [Applause] 262 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:01,020 now listen 263 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:02,880 and we haven't gotten the answers yet 264 00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:04,860 and we've seen a lot of things and we've 265 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:06,360 heard a lot of stories 266 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:08,940 and so don't expect answers so quickly 267 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:15,890 that's true I guess yes it's true all 268 00:19:19,789 --> 00:19:18,120 right then I'll tell you what now uh you 269 00:19:21,770 --> 00:19:19,799 promised us some things and we're going 270 00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:21,780 to hold you as an honorable person to 271 00:19:25,970 --> 00:19:23,580 those promises or we'll test the heck 272 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,980 out of you I am not going to put it with 273 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:27,840 my stack of stuff you won't believe me 274 00:19:35,470 --> 00:19:30,840 but I have got a huge discount full of 275 00:19:39,529 --> 00:19:37,789 fine because we've made three telephone 276 00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:39,539 calls out there and each one of them is 277 00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:42,780 a costly thing and uh we're very very 278 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:45,660 happy to talk to you tonight and I hope 279 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:48,160 to hear from you again very soon 280 00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:51,120 [Music] 281 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:53,880 okay then thank you very much Mr Lewis